psychology of high iq

and you have High intense energy so you must be Bipolar... Bipolar people have shifts of high and low energy...my energy is consistent 24/7 all year long and my energy intensity is also consistent...like a "cruise control" if it does intensify is directly related to life circumstances..stress..I change as my environment changes. Nostradamus —Physician, Prophet After being diagnosed with ADD in my thirties, I returned to college as a middle aged adult and graduated with honors. William Wrigley, Jr. — Chewing Gum Maker I have been watching some online videos about Asperger's and I think I have found quite a few of the answers I have been looking for. Thank you, {{form.email}}, for signing up. I seem to fit a textbook model for ADHD with High IQ/Creativity...but My doctor is so fixated on the Bipolar Diagnosis..he refuses to listen..It saddens me that a MD in his profession keeps his hand on the DSM V while speaking to me and says.."you can't sleep and you have extreme intense energy...so you must be Bipolar." Goddard was a psychologist who earned his doctorate in psychology from Clark University in 1899. Music therapy can decrease ADHD and ADD symptoms. Sign up to find out more in our Healthy Mind newsletter. Gifted child, any child who is naturally endowed with a high degree of general mental ability or extraordinary ability in a specific sphere of activity or knowledge.The designation of giftedness is largely a matter of administrative convenience. Your description of adult ADHD is spot on! Yes, if you get involved in a career that interests you, you will excel at it in certain ways, but in general, as you get older your brain calms down. For decades, this syndrome now known as ADD or ADHD was seen as a behavior disorder, a set of problems seen just in little kids who couldn't sit still, wouldn't shut up, and who frustrated parents and teachers with chronic misbehavior. I independently study Psychology, Philosophy and I adore reading Aristotle before bed (which some people find odd?) Logic, spatial awareness, verbal reasoning, and visual abilities are some of the key areas assessed by many IQ tests. For about 80 percent of those with ADD, executive function can be improved significantly with a carefully managed regimen of medication approved for the treatment of ADD. Now The Older I get the worse it has gotten. Neurofeedback? The more they sober up, the easier the task becomes. !,....honestly, how does anyone answer that?!?! When I feel confused (in my personal life only), I sau O have ADD, I'm sorry I did not understand what you kist said. Ever wonder what your personality type means? The term was closely tied with the American eugenics movement. It might not seem like a huge revelation on paper, but it did just help me to decode my brain and my past a bit better. that an MD could be that close minded! I liken it to a drink.. like when someone has a stressful day and may pour themselves a drink at the end of the day to relax...I crave my Banjo... it relieves my stress for some reason.also I like to make things I like to take things apart. My wife often refers to me as a renaissance man because of my varied and often disparate interests, however; I wish I could just focus on one thing at a time and follow-through with the task until completion. I drink water, some coffee, Black cherry juice occasionally, lemon water I drink apple cider vinegar with water and now that Im older,no alcohol so I can conserve my energy)..I eat red meat very seldom. ..and he is the only psychiatrist I have available to me. I'm glad that you were able to relate to that. They can try, and sometimes they can be convincing for a bit, but it's a very difficult thing to do. Believe it or not, this illustration really defines the usage for me! Robin Williams — Prolific American Comedian, Actor, It's not a game that can afford guessing. is extremely disappointing. heading.. For the metaphore sake. Alberto Tomba — Alpine Ski Champion This study shows that it doesn't. . The point of the article is that we struggle DESPITE our high intelligence. Nelson Rockefeller — U.S. Vice President Third Get diagnosed by a doctor who specializes in ADHD. The capacity to focus and mobilize executive functions for a task depends primarily on release of dopamine in specific areas of the brain and that release of dopamine is not under voluntary control.". Research over the past 20 years has dramatically changed our understanding of ADD by showing that many who fully meet diagnostic criteria for ADD have never had significant behavior problems. They're high in B's and the price is better than most other places if you get the store brand. I think I need help. Ensure that really is the problem for you. The usage criticized here is probably one of them. I am not sure whether my academic and self-management problems are caused by my lower IQ or whether I really have ADHD. Col. Gregory "Pappy" Boyington —WWII Flying Ace (Black Sheep Squadron Leader) Henry David Thoreau —Author, Poet That view made sense, because, for several decades, ADD was seen as just hyperactive behavior, not as a problem with attention and EF. In elementary school, I could not understand any words coming out of most peoples mouths. Read our. I have adult ADD with an IQ of 139. I can go about my day doing a little bit of all of many different things but not getting any of them done.at least right away...I write lists ... and mark things off.. There is so much that I disagree with, and will never understand. One of the most helpful descriptions of ADHD that I have ever heard is this lecture by Dr. Russell Barkley: http://thesingularparent.com/?p=99. Vincent van Gogh — Dutch Artist who settled in France, Impressionism Alexander Graham Bell — Telephone Inventor (Note: In this article, the term ADD is used to refer to both ADD and ADHD). John Lennon —Musician I did better in high school than grade school. Robert F. Kennedy — U.S. Attorney General, Brother of JFK Probably because I have never been dysfunctional before. 68% of IQ scores fall within one standard deviation of the mean. Most people unconsciously like to believe it's the one exception, but actually, healthcare might even be the worst. If a person symptoms disappears with B vitamin therapy, I believe it is attention deficicent caused by poor nutrition, not ADD that you are genetically born with. Design tasks so that your deadline for something is always "now". It can and will impair your B vitamin uptake which isn't helpful. But longer-term studies have shown that for about 70-80 percent of those with ADD, their attentional symptoms tend to persist into adulthood, even if hyperactive problems have remitted. I graduated from a very good college to get a very good job as a programmer, but guess what happened? These labels are often given for IQ scores: IQ scores follow what is known as the bell curve. The average score on an IQ test is 100. sound-add-adhd-treatment.com, and here Today's intelligence tests are based largely on the original test devised in the early 1900s by French psychologist Alfred Binet. Medications cannot cure ADD, but, just as eyeglasses can improve vision when worn, for most individuals, regardless of IQ level, medication treatment for ADD can significantly improve executive functioning when it is appropriately used. Dwight D. Eisenhower — U. S. President, Military General I think I have ADD. So many people, primarily Boomers, (I'm 55 yrs old with ADHD, with hyperactivity) don't believe people our age can have it, that it's a disorder only children can have, that it's an excuse for not performing to their expectations, etc...and it's frustrating to try to explain it to "these" people. Make sure you're getting your B's if you have ADD. It tore me up inside. This is probably what has predisposed me to alcohol abuse...a great mistake from my past! Napoleon Bonaparte —Emperor of France I have to be outside.. Frustrating, . now at 40, after changing meds a few times did reach a level of clarity, but it took almost 2 years for the meds to do their proper work. Sure, some studies have shown, some children have ADHD like symptoms if they have dietary deficiencies but please stop propagating the myth that diet will magically fix it for everybody. A third factor that helps many with ADD to improve their impaired executive functioning is treatment with appropriate medication. So, for some people it might help, but then it's the question if their condition was actually ADD and not just a simple food allergy with similar symptoms. Anything above 140 is considered a high or genius-level IQ. Many were in special programs for talented and gifted students. I was never a bad student or dysfunctional. Despite the persistence of ADD, many of those affected experience less impairment from ADD symptoms as they get older. I graduated high school with very good grades, then went on to a pretty good college to major in Economics, where I did not try very hard, and often would skip classes, but still managed to pull A's and B's only. Thanks for the clarification. Hi I still did pretty good in other classes, but math suddenly became my nemesis! I also see a psychiatrist which helps with anxiety/depr...often found w ADD. Data from this study show that individuals can have very high IQs and still suffer significant impairments in each of these executive functions that are essential for working effectively and for getting along with other people. Michael Jordan — American Basketball Player Really? And I'll second your last line, don't waste time with anyone that doesn't feel right. So I keep to myself alot to keep my environment stable.I seem to fit a textbook model for ADHD with High IQ/Creativity...but My doctor is so fixated on the Bipolar Diagnosis..he refuses to listen..It saddens me that a MD in his profession keeps his hand on the DSM V while speaking to me and says.."you can't sleep and you have extreme intense energy...so you must be Bipolar." Oxford University Press. Some stuff i witnessed would have let me take their license back if i had the power, just from pity for the future patients. because once I close my eyes...IM DONE. It's bad and corrupt in there, specially in hospitals. Any info on that would help immensely. (Note: In this article, the term ADD is used to refer to both ADD and ADHD). All of the students in this study reported that they had no difficulty in exercising executive functions very well for a few specific activities. Thomas E. Brown, Ph.D., is an adjunct clinical associate professor at the Keck School of Medicine of the University of Southern California and a consulting psychologist for Understood.org. Just being very smart is not enough to be successful in college, university or employment; one also needs to be able to manage oneself, to work productively, and to get along reasonably well with peers, professors, supervisors, and employers. Students in this study, compared to others of the same age, were impaired not by a lack of smarts, but by a chronic inability to deploy their smarts effectively in work and in getting along with other people. I'd like to know where you get your B's from. Abraham Lincoln —U.S. Many people who have ADD symptoms sometimes have an underlying cause like celiacs disease or chrohn's disease. Nasser (Gamal Abdel-Nasser) Egyptian Leader Anna Eleanor Roosevelt — American First Lady It is an internalization of skills and support that used to be provided by others (the parents) so you can now do them yourself. As far as IQ, people with average IQ scores outperform those with higher IQs a majority of the time. It's similar to many high risk jobs, you have to cover up or half the people would have no license. Of course we're not alone, but whenever I read something that really hits home I feel validated. but I want to watch! IMHO, he IS a treasure to society. I kept saying that is me...I do that..I was diagnosed with ADHD but my energy levels are extremely high and I couldn't find anything to describe what I experience..but as I was reading about the drive to create..create..create...that describes me perfectly.. Even my husband thinks it's BS, and actually tells me he thinks my menopause and ADD/ADHD is an EXCUSE for the changes I'm undergoing at this stage in life.....huh? We explain that these students struggled when required to operate more independently without that one teacher who can help to keep tasks and expectations organized for all subjects throughout the day. Unlike the high IQ children and adults with ADHD, I believed myself to be of a lower than average IQ score, even though I have never taken an actual test before. On a standardized exam, such as the Stanford-Binet test, the average IQ score is 100. Then took a few years off (just as you described in your article) to figure out what to do, because I was pretty confused what to do with my life, because I always was changing my mind and felt like I couldn't work in the real world, so I went to grad school. Thanks, oh mighty expert, for your simplistic answer to ADD. To understand what the score on an IQ test means, there are a few key terms that you should know. Ⓒ 2021 About, Inc. (Dotdash) — All rights reserved. The institute that is helping me with my ADD already warned me that real ADD can't be treated by simply changing a diet, so I shouldn't get my hopes up when trying. ..I also study Astrology..Numerology and joined groups of that nature. Like the article states, I am unable to focus on anything that is not interesting to me, but I can focus for hours and hours at a time on my passion, which is cooking. How the Stigma of Mental Illness Has Evolved Over Time. I never blamed it on myself apart from blaming myself for inviting that (not so attractive) girl/woman.. Babe Ruth — American Baseball Player They assume that being smart protects a person from the difficulties associated with ADD. Ozzy Osbourne —English Rock Musician, said he was ADHD on TV I have recently found out my cortisol levels were high beyond the graphs the labs make. Some have been mystified as to how very bright students could suffer from ADD. Sylvester Stallone — American Actor the first instrument in my life! To me that was a pretty big compliment! Frederick Carlton (Carl) Lewis —American Olympic Athelete. I would also advise you to get tested for common food allergens so that you can avoid foods that damage your digestive tract or cause bloating, inflammation and anything related to IBS. Looks like YOU didn't read either. I judge distance in a split second. I just tell them what they want and expect to hear, a scripted answer.) There exist strategies for managing. Sir Winston Churchill — English Statesman (Failed the sixth grade) This helped my tremendously, I felt like I was hyper aware in a way that I hadn't experienced before. How can someone be an honor student in elementary school and then struggle and fail repeatedly in high school or college? is extremely disappointing. The content of this field is kept private and will not be shown publicly. Good luck! Martinez M. Future Bright: A Transforming Vision of Human Intelligence. It seems to me that one of the symptoms of ADD is not being able to cope with society, and that description fits me perfectly. In most countries the prevailing definition is an intelligence quotient of 130 or … ADD has nothing to do with how smart a person is. All the best to you. There, lost without the strong daily support of their parents, many of these very bright students were unable to cope with their schoolwork, had plummeting grades, and were required to take a semester off or transfer to another, less challenging college. Either way, my student life and future working life is going to be an uphill struggle for me. I can understand what you are saying though I am not brilliant as you are. To actually like somethings and dislike others, and choose (non-conforming) to follow your likes... Lol... Who is the real patient, actually.. The Dr said, "You are supposed to be asleep!" that's because add is an inflammatory condition.. Or maybe ADD is just a personality trait seen as a disorder, Reply to Madelyn Griffith-Haynie, CTP, CMC, MCC, SCAC, Quote Madelyn Griffith-Haynie, CTP, CMC, MCC, SCAC, REPLY...CORRELATION BTW ADD AND INTELLIGENCE. I relate to the energy levels, varied interests and misdiagnosis. What exactly constitutes a genius score on a measure of intelligence? All of the 117 kids in this study fully met diagnostic criteria for ADD, and all had IQ scores of 120 or more, placing them in the top 9 percent of their age group on basic intelligence. If there's one thing I've learned in general it's that most people aren't really good at their job and that also includes people healthcare. Tracey Gold — American Actress I'm high. Verywell Mind uses only high-quality sources, including peer-reviewed studies, to support the facts within our articles. I live in Northern New York (Close to Lake Placid) so our communities are small towns and medical help is not as advanced..I also read someone like me would require help with someone trained to help me..where do find these people? If it's not something that turns you on, you can't get it up and you're not able to perform." Which sucks for me, because my life depends upon it. so I stop and pic for a minute... Im not depressed ! Of all fields of expertise it's the one where's there is still the most unknown and probably also highest complexity and risk too. I now am a daytrader, which is an extreme passion of mine, but I really really really lack in the executive function department. and I am grateful to you..Please take good care of you...Paula. You may want to look into it. I'm better at high level thinking. I also built plans for a business. Then after that long roller coaster ride, I left my ivory tower... and then life happened. James Stewart — American Actor Are people in the "Genius IQ" bracket really that much better off than those in the "High IQ" or even the "Average IQ" brackets? I just take a B vitaminn supplement from the co-op.I cant say it is anything special. This is exactly what having real ADD is like. It's almost like you're describing my life. 5. This means you have a high crystallized intelligence. As you know the B vitamins are responsible for cognitive functions. I attribute it to changing classes every 45-55 minutes. While I agree that alterations in diet can improve cognitive function, I am wondering what your last statement has to do with the article. As you age and mature, your focus improves. The peak of the "bell" occurs where the majority of the scores lie. Jackie Stewart — Car Racing, Grand Prix Hall of Famer Dustin Hoffman — Actor The design of that research was almost identical to this recent study of kids with ADD, and the results were very similar. For example, medication is one. Moron is a term once used in psychology and psychiatry to denote mild intellectual disability. Low IQ women consistently outperform high IQ men on episodic memory tasks (Halpern, 2014, Sex Differences in Cognitive Ability) So basically, this "illness", is about not being a robot. Because I now hurt and dont have the energy I once had.I have gotten scattered..(working as a charge nurse in a nursing home started to become something I felt would kill me soon if I couldnt stop soon).one of the many stresses of my ADD is I will make multiple trips back into the House for all the things I think of after I get to the car things I think I will need to have with me just in case I find myself waiting somewhere so I will have something to do or something to drink or something to listen to while I wait. I fairly did a through analysis on ADHD vs. Bipolar and I don't have even one characteristic . near and far. I found it all by accident really..I followed the trail of bread crumbs and poof there I was ..I am feeling much better about everything..I completely agree with you being undiagnosed and misdiagnosed has caused more stress than anything else..I am feeling solid..clear..and content now. Individuals with ADD tend to catch up in the development of these delayed regions of the brain crucial for EF about three to five years behind their peers. The five truths about attention deficit disorder. You just have to find a doctor that treats hormones. William Butler Yeats — Irish Author, I have studied researches that support that music therapy is a excellent method to improve concentration in ADHD adults as well as children. I sit and eat. For example, if a man has died on the sidewalk and isn't moving - he has foundered. But that confidence is only required for themselves, don't let it cloud your own judgement, ever. http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/10-often-asked-questions-about-adhd-answered, I have studied researches that support that music therapy is a excellent method to improve concentration in ADHD adults as well as children. I have never been diagnosed with it. Practically failed out first semester. Don't see yourself as a patient, but as a client, don't forget that. I always got very high marks without studying at all. No! And…lol..I read Tarot cards with 99% accuracy in my spare time to help others..free of charge, also, I can write and draw with both hands. Three reasons may contribute to such improvement: for many with ADD, junior high, high school, and the first few years of university are the most difficult. They even have discounts to further save you some money also. The difficulty, the energy and forced concentration it requires to remain focused is exhausting, but most of all very similar to ADD. I use that example in life often, but I didn't know how it would appeared when typed. While you might often hear that brilliant individuals, including Albert Einstein and Steven Hawking, possessed IQs of 160 or higher, or that certain presidential candidates have specific IQs, these numbers are simply estimates. When asked to explain why they could focus on those few specific activities, but not on other tasks they recognized as important, the students typically responded by saying: "If it's something that really interests me, I can focus. There have been a few occasions where I had trouble getting an erection. I had an invible force field around my brain. I started taking medicine ...Adderall ...Im not sure how it works except its a reverse kind of effect. I have gone through periods of my adult life in which I have chosen to go off of medication for periods of time. If the task is something that really interests you, you're up for it and can perform. **The term Extremely Low is used in place of the terms Mentally Retarded, used in the WAIS-R, and Intellectually Deficient, used in the WISC-III to avoid the implication that a very low IQ … How can someone be really smart and yet have ADD?
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